FAQ

Si Turbo Kit
Hondata’s FlashPro
R18 Turbo Kit
Hondata reflash
Drivability
AJP Fuel Return Kit
Piggybacks
Road Monster Package
Shipping
Greddy Turbo Kit
Acura
8th Civic

Turbo kit

1. With what years and models is your kit compatible?

   2006 Si Coupe
   2007 Si Sedan, Coupe
   2008 Si Sedan, Coupe
   2009 Si Sedan, Coupe
   2010 Si Sedan, Coupe

2. What is the cost and turnaround time to install the turbo kit?

   $1200 and 3 days on a stock engine. It can take up to 3 weeks when doing an AJP Road Monster package.

   Also, the fuel return kit labor is $250 and the gauge labor is $350.

3. How much boost do I need in order to get 420 whp?

   11 psi with Hondata's FlashPro.

4. How do you tune your kit?

   Hondata's FlashPro.

5. Will I have any Check Engine Lights?

   No, Hondata FlashPro eliminates them.

6. What else do you recommend that I get with the kit?

   The fuel return kit is an external fuel pressure regulator that supplies the additional fuel to the engine when you increase the boost and step on the accelerator. We sell this but a competent performance shop should be able to build one for you.

   3" exhaust - get more power.
   Ingalls Stiffy Engine Torque Damper to reduce engine vibration.

   Competition Clutch Stage 4 Clutch disk for stock engines, Competition Clutch Multi-plate Assembly Twin-Disc Ceramic Kit for the AJP Road Monster Packages.

7. Does your turbo kit run on stock internals?

   Yes. Our kit gives you up to 420 whp on stock internals alone.

   Unlike other kits, our kit does not require you to use a thicker head gasket or lower the compression on your stock motor at all.

   For built motors, our kit still uses the stock radiator.

8. What size are the injectors?

   650cc

9. Does my header and/or intake work with your kit?

   Headers and intakes do not work with our kit. Don't buy them or if you already have them, sell them when you install our kit.

10. Does your kit require 93 octane fuel?

    No. It runs fine on 91 octane.

11. How can I get 800 whp like you guys did?

    Building your motor, bigger turbo, bigger intercooler, bigger intercooler piping, bigger injectors.

12. On what dyno did you develop your turbo kit?

    On a Dynojet dyno owned and operated by Speed Injected of Hallandale, FL. The numbers we publicize - 376 whp, 232 ft-lbs torque - are Dynojet numbers.

13. How soon do you ship your kit after I pay for it?

    We ship the kit within 3 weeks.

14. Any discounts if I get my own parts?

    Yes, we can sell you a partial kit.

15. Does your kit work outside the United States?

    Yes, but you will have to replace your ecu with a US ecu in order for FlashPro to work.

16. Do you offer financing?

    No.

17. Is your turbo kit approved for my state inspection?

    We do not track which states have approved our kit. However, we can check to see if any of our customers live in your state. We are not CARB compliant.

18. Would you be willing to sponsor my vehicle?

    Only if you race your car in recognized races such as Chin Motorsports or Redline Time Attack.

    We are not sponsoring show vehicles at this time.

19. What do you have planned for your car?

    Racing it.

    On December 6, 2009, we ran an 11.177 at Palm Beach International Raceway:

    http://nscra.com/view-event-results/4/round-4-season-finale

    Street Outlaw: 4-Cylinder, Racer #7280

20. At what track do you run your car?

    Palm Beach International Raceway (formerly Moroso Motorsports Park)

21. Do you accept trade-ins of old turbo kits?

    No. The liability of making sure the parts are fully functional before selling them is too high. eBay is your best bet.

22. How can I tell if a used AJP turbo kit is authentic?

    First, older kits should have a Hondata reflash. If it does not, ask the seller why.

    Second, it should have the parts listed on our website.

    Third, give us a call. We track who owns our kits.

Hondata’s FlashPro

1. What is Hondata’s FlashPro?

   FlashPro is a user-controllable device to reflash the Honda Civic Si's ecu. Prior to this, the only way to reflash your ecu was to send it to Hondata.

   Instead of a high-cost one-size-fits-all reflash, you now have the ability to reflash your ecu any number of times with your own settings. Popular settings can be saved to a calibration file and shared with other FlashPro users.

2. Does FlashPro work with the AJP Si turbo kit?

   Yes, it works quite well and is our primary means of tuning our kit.

3. How will the AJP Si Turbo Kit incorporate FlashPro?

   You will need to buy your own FlashPro unit. We have developed a base tune and saved it to a calibration file. We will copy the calibration file to your FlashPro unit or send it to you for you to upload it to your FlashPro unit. You can then reflash your ecu with it.

   If you have us tune your car, we will continue to fine tune the reflash. If not, then you/your tuner can tune off our calibration file or tune from scratch. We are unable to support your tuner.

4. Do I have to get my own FlashPro?

   Yes, a FlashPro unit can work on one car at a time. If you sell the FlashPro unit, you must reset your ecu back to stock before transferring ownership.

5. What is the turnaround time for the FlashPro reflash procedure?

   90 seconds for each reflash by FlashPro. Those 90-second reflashes can add up.

6. What is the psi limit of FlashPro?

   We are in the process of determining that but we have pushed it to 40 psi.

7. Do you sell FlashPro for cars sold outside North and South America?

   No. We are a US dealer for Hondata. Hondata policy does not allow us to sell their international version of FlashPro. That means that we cannot sell FlashPro for any car that was purchased in Europe, Africa or Asia.

   However, if you bought your car in North or South America and then shipped it to another part of the world, we can sell you a FlashPro because your car has a North or South American ecu.

8. Is FlashPro better than the Hondata AJP turbo reflash?

   Absolutely.

   Our customers are raving about the improvement it has made to the drivability.

   It will have all of the advantages of the Hondata AJP Turbo reflash without its disadvantages, which included an 8.5 psi boost limit and no ability to fine-tune.

R18 Turbo Kit

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   When will your R18 turbo kit come out?

   Currently, we are looking for a suitable tuning solution and have no specific release date. Hopefully, the tuning solution comes out soon.

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   How much power does your R18 turbo kit produce?

   Our latest numbers are about 250 whp and 205 ft-lbs. of torque at 8.5 psi.

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   What is your tuning?

   We are still working on some options.

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   Can FlashPro be used to tune this kit?

   Not yet. Hondata indicated that it will be a while before FlashPro will work with the R18.

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   Will your kit work with my automatic transmission?

   Yes. It works for both manual and automatic transmission. But the automatic transmission will have slightly less hp and torque due to higher powertrain losses.

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   How much does your R18 turbo kit cost?

   We do not have a price right now.

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   What turbo does your kit have?

   Precision 5457.

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   Do I need anything else to go along with the kit?

   A bigger exhaust will help.

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   Is this a bolt-on kit?

   Yes. No hacking up your car or front bumper.

Hondata reflash

1. I already have a Hondata reflash. Do I still need to get FlashPro?

   If you have the Hondata Naturally-Aspirated reflash, you will need FlashPro. If you have the Hondata AJP turbo reflash, you do not have to get FlashPro, but we recommend that you do.

2. Do I need the Hondata FlashPro?

   No, you can use whatever tuning you want - AEM Fuel/Ignition Controller, Greddy e-Manage Ultimate, Haltech, Motech, etc. However, our experience is that the turbo kit runs best with the Hondata FlashPro.

3. Do you reflash the ECU?

   Yes, Hondata's FlashPro gives you the ability reflash your ecu as many times as you want.

4. Do you offer a Hondata ECU reflash for your AJP R18 kit?

   Yes, it will be offered when we introduce our AJP R18 kit this summer (2009).

5. What is a reflash?

   A reflash is a reconfiguration of the ecu using special electronic equipment. The ecu is removed from the vehicle, reflashed (either on-site or another location) and then returned to the vehicle. Reflashing does not alter the outside of the unit in any way.

6. Can I get the reflash now and the turbo kit later?

   You can by paying for the reflash and 50% of the turbo kit up front.

   However, your car will lose significant performance until you install the turbo kit because the reflash is tuned for big injectors and other factors.

Drivability

1. Will I still be able to use my car as a daily driver?

   Yes.

   Many of our customers use their AJP turboed Honda Civic Si as their daily driver.

   One of our earliest customers has over 40,000 miles on his kit that is installed on his 2006 Si.

2. How will your turbo kit affect my gas mileage?

   As long as you stay out of boost, you gas mileage will stay nearly the same. Once you step on it, the gas mileage goes down.

3. Does your kit work outside of Florida?

   Yes. We have customers all over the U.S and other countries.

4. I heard that your kit doesn't work in cold weather.

   We haven't.

   However, it is not safe to boost in cold weather due to large boost spikes that could damage your motor.

   As air temperature drops, its density rises for a given volume of air. This means more oxygen is entering the system than is expected causing a lean condition.

   You can drive your car all day in cold weather, but you should not boost.

AJP Fuel Return Kit

1. What is a fuel return kit?

   A fuel return kit ensures that enough fuel is supplied to the injectors at all times, especially during boost.

2. Do I need a fuel return kit?

   With FlashPro, it is possible to run without one, but from a safety standpoint, we recommend that you get it.

   It's a small investment to make sure you are 100% guaranteed to have fuel.

3. Do I have to buy your fuel return kit?

   No. You or your local shop can build one. A fuel return kit has no special parts and many internet sites detail the procurement and assembly of parts.

4. Does your kit bypass the stock fuel filter?

   No. The fuel travels from the Walbro pump to the stock fuel filter to the fuel line and on to the fuel rail. The excess fuel leaves the fuel rail and returns to the fuel tank via the fuel return kit's external fuel pressure regulator.

Piggybacks

1. What piggybacks did you use with the Hondata reflash?

   We used the AEM Fuel/Ignition Controller and the Greddy e-Manage Ultimate.

   Now we are using FlashPro by Hondata for the start-to-finish tuning.

2. Can I use my own piggyback and your base map?

   Yes - you will need to ship your piggyback to us so that we can install it. There is a cost associated with using our base map.

3. Do you provide a base map for the piggyback?

   We provide base maps for the AEM Fuel/Ignition Controller and the Greddy e-Manage Ultimate for a fee. We must have your unit to install the base map.

4. How are you using the AEM Fuel/Ignition Controller?

   It is a possible tuning solution for countries that are ineligible for the Hondata FlashPro or Hondata AJP Turbo reflash.

   It is also a possible tuning solution for the automatic transmission version of our R18 turbo kit.

5. Can I use the AEM F/IC without FlashPro?

   Yes, but according to limited customer feedback, we found that it does not work well.

6. Are there other controllers that work with the kit and the Hondata reflash?

   Yes, we have also installed the Greddy e-Manage Ultimate on our shop car and a customer's car. The e-Manage Ultimate costs more but offers more flexibility to the tuner.

7. Do I have to use the AEM F/IC or other piggyback tuning device on my kit?

   No, Hondata's FlashPro is fine for whatever power range you're after.

8. How complete is your base map?

   Our base map should give you about 80% of the tune. Your tuner can start from there and finish off the tuning.

9. How much tuning must be done with your base map?

   Our base map provides a good starting point for your tuner. Your tuner will need to fine-tune your car for local climate conditions including temperature and altitude.

10. Are you able to provide support to my tuner?

    Unfortunately, we cannot. Make sure you get a competent tuner who knows your piggyback.

Road Monster Package

1. What is the Road Monster Package?

   The Road Monster Packages are where we build the motor. You can get somewhere between 500 - 550 whp or 600-650 whp.

   We introduced these packages in late spring 2008 when we were researching for a way to get around the 8.5 psi boost cut imposed by the Hondata reflash.

2. What is the difference between the Standard Road Monster Package and the Advanced Road Monster Package?

   The Advanced Road Monster Package includes sleeving the block while the Standard Road Monster Package does not.

3. How long does it take to build the motor?

   The Standard Road Monster Package takes 2 weeks. The Advanced Road Monster Package takes 3 weeks.

4. Do I have to upgrade the kit when I get the Road Monster Package?

   No. We use the same kit for both the stock motor and the Road Monster Package. The beauty of our kit is that it scales up the power range without requiring upgrades. So you can always upgrade your motor later and never worry about having to buy additional parts for the kit.

   Other kits top out at a certain power level and if you want to go higher than that, you have to buy a bigger turbo, bigger injectors and other parts. People wind up spending more money for less power than if they had bought our kit in the first place.

   Not with our kit.

5. What is the procedure for getting the Road Monster Package and turbo kit?

   Schedule at least one month in advance.
   Allow 2 or 3 weeks for the build and turbo kit installation.
   Put 750 miles on the car to break in the motor - either you or we can drive it.
   Tune the car.

6. What else do you recommend?

   You must upgrade your clutch. We recommend the Carbonetic Twin-Disc Clutch: CAR-ACH23290-14 Carbonetic Twin Carbon Clutch (1350kg) K20 06 Civic, RSX.

   You should get the Ingalls Stiffy Engine Torque Damper to reduce the vibrations of the engine under boost.

   If you're going to go to the track, you must use slicks.

7. What kind of deals do you offer with the built motor?

   You save a lot on labor costs if you install the turbo kit at the same time. We will also install your clutch and/or your Ingalls Stiffy Engine Torque Damper for free.

8. What kind of quarter-mile times can I expect with the Road Monster Package?

   We're working on that with a few of our current customers. We will publish the results once we get them.

9. How much does it cost?

   The price varies with the amount of hp you want.

   Please contact us at sales@ajperformance.com or 954 636 7992.

10. I can't stick around for 2 or 3 weeks - what are my options?

    You can ship your car down and then come down in time to drive the car to break in the motor. Or you can ship it both ways.

11. Can I build my motor now and get the turbo kit later?

    Only if you want to drive a dud.

    A built motor has a lower compression, so if you do not turn up the boost, you will have less power than stock.

Shipping

1. Do you ship your kit?

   Yes.

2. How much does it cost to ship the kit to _______?

   Go to ups.com/fedex.com and calculate the cost with

   Shipping weight: 100 lbs.
   My Packaging/Your Packaging
   Dimensions of box: 36" x 22" x 22" (otherwise known as an EH container)
   Source ZIP code: 33351, Lauderhill, FL

3. How long does it take to ship the kit to _____?

   Go to ups.com/fedex.com and calculate the cost with

   Shipping weight: 100 lbs.
   My Packaging/Your Packaging
   Dimensions of box: 36" x 22" x 22" (otherwise known as an EH container)
   Source ZIP code: 33351, Lauderhill, FL

Greddy Turbo Kit

1. Will your downpipe fit my Greddy turbo kit?

   No. The Greddy turbo faces in the opposite direction of the AJP downpipe. The turbo also has a bolted flange while the AJP downpipe uses a v-band clamp.

2. Will your exhaust work with my Greddy turbo kit?

   Yes, provided you fabricate a reducer that fits between your Greddy downpipe and the 3" AJP exhaust.

3. Do you have anything that works with my Greddy turbo kit?

   Yes, our test pipe bolts right on with no modification and will give you some horsepower.

4. Can you tune a Greddy turbo kit?

   Yes, we can tune a Greddy turbo kit. Call us for an appointment.

5. Can you install a Greddy turbo kit?

   Yes. Please contact us for pricing and installation details.

Acura

1. Does your Si kit fit an Acura?

   No. It will not fit any Acura RSX or TSX. Everything is rearranged in an Acura from the Civic Si.

8th Civic

1. Why was there a pinned post, "Something you should consider before going AJP: A true story about liars", in the Forced Induction and Nitrous sub forum?

   A moderator (who has since left the position and 8th Civic) was tired of seeing the post resurrected from the dead, not because there was any genuinely useful information.

   The author of the post, Jeshua, agreed to donate his car to prototyping the AJP R18 turbo kit. Days before he was to get his car tuned by Doug of Hondata, he backed out of the deal. We refunded the money he paid for the kit.

   However, he wanted compensation for other expenses incurred. Apparently, he did not understand the nature of an R & D project and went on a rant when we informed him that we were not in a position to reimburse him for all of his expenses.

   Note that he was never a full-paying customer but a research & development partner.

2. Did you create a second (or multiple) accounts to boost your reputation?

   No.

   But don't take our word for it. Let each side present its case and you make the call.

   Here is our side:

   In August 2007, Tim drove down to our shop from Connecticut to have us install the kit in his car. While he was here, he connected to our wireless network to post about his experience. He continued his posts back at his hotel. He then drove back to Connecticut.

   We have had numerous customers come down to our shop to install our kit in their car. Some stick around the shop, others tour South Florida for the week that they are down here.

   Here are facts any registered 8th Civic member can see for himself:

   Tim's 8th Civic screen name was Snowbird.

   On November 29, 2006, he became a member of 8th Civic.

   On November 29, 2006, he made his first post, asking about the AJP turbo kit.

   On June 11, 2007, he made his second post, with just a general greeting.

   On June 12, 2007, he made his third post indicating his intention to be at an All Florida meet.

   On June 12, 2007, he made his fourth post asking if AJP is going to be at the meet.

   Beginning on August 10, 2007, with the infamous Jeshua thread spinning out of control, Tim supported AJP by posting a highly-favorable review of AJP. Understandably, he is swarmed by haters.

   At one point, someone asks him where he is located and Tim responds by telling him where his home is, which is Connecticut. He did not indicate where he was at that point in time, which was South Florida.

   Here is their side:

   Webby (owner of 8th Civic) and the moderators inspect the IP address of the posts Tim made on August 10, 2007 and compare it to posts made by known AJP people at the shop. It matches. They also locate another IP address from Tim's posts to be in South Florida, not too far from the first IP address.

   Thus, they conclude that Tim is an AJP employee and not a customer. They lock the thread and ban Snowbird. End of discussion.

   How watertight, airtight and bulletproof is Webby's case?

   Question 1: If Webby is able to see the IP address of each post, why did he not post the IP address of Tim/Snowbird's first four posts (11/29/06, 6/11/07, 6/12/07, 6/12/07)? If anything supports the idea that Tim/Snowbird is really an AJP employee, it would be South FL IP addresses for those first four posts made months before the August 2007 posts.

   We are confident that they are not. But nobody knows because Webby never revealed them. All he says is that they are not from Connecticut and that they were outside of Florida. He refuses to list them. Basically, he is saying, "Take my word for it." instead of laying the evidence out like he was so quick to do when he listed the Florida IP addresses.

   Question 2: AJP's reputation was spiraling out of control on 8th Civic in Spring 2007. Why would we wait several more months and over 8 months after we joined the forum to boost our reputation?

   Question 3: Which set of facts fits the multiple IP address scenario better? What is the simpler resolution?

   Scneario 1: Someone posts from his computer in Connecticut (or at least, outside of Florida) on 3 separate days spread out over 7 months from 11/29/06 to 6/12/07. He then drives down from Connecticut, posts on 8th Civic with his computer connected to AJP's wireless network and the South Florida hotel's network (two IP addresses located near each other).

   Scenario 2: An AJP employee posts 4 times spread out over 7 months from 11/29/06 to 6/12/07. He then posts two months later to boost AJP's sagging reputation. It is shown that his August 2007 posts are located in South Florida, both at AJP and near AJP.

   However, it is *not* known or revealed where his first four posts were made. If he were an AJP employee, then the only consistent conclusion would be that the first four posts would also have South FL IP addresses. If not, then the AJP employee would have to be in the location where those IP addresses are (like Connecticut).

   Webby never gave Tim/Snowbird a chance to respond. Tim could have dispelled any notion of a fake account by posting when he got home and letting Webby and the moderators inspect that IP address. But they didn't.

   Webby wonders why Tim never contacted him. Uh, maybe because he was upset after being banned so quickly (like, before he got home to Connecticut)? Many members have left 8th Civic in a huff. Do you think they would contact Webby if they were *banned* from 8th Civic?

   Does Webby attempt to explain the first four IP addresses that were outside of Florida? No.

   Why is Webby so selective in presenting his evidence? Is he giving you the information and letting you decide? Or is he giving you his conclusion and leaving out the details? Which side is being dishonest in presenting its case?

   Finally, IP locators vary in their accuracy. Check out this website for a comparison:

   http://www.topwebhosts.org/tools/ip-locator.php

   From our shop, our IP address is listed as Boca Raton, FL by one locator and Atlanta, GA by another locator. Only 623 miles apart and across state lines.

   Using this IP address: 208.101.11.128

   Use this locator service:

   http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation

   Compare the result to this locator service:

   http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer/

   Finally, plug the IP address into this website:

   http://www.antionline.com/tools-and-toys/ip-locate/

   Where is this domain located?

   Once again, like his handling of the first four IP addresses of Snowbird, Webby never listed the tools he used to determine the location of the IP addresses either through ignorance of their inaccuracy or willful suppression of the evidence.

   Wouldn't it be simple to list the IP addresses of all of the posts and the IP locators he used to reach his conclusion? Yes.

   If it were so easy to nail Snowbird as an AJP employee, what is there to hide?

   Whether or not Tim/Snowbird is from Connecticut (we don't do background checks of our customers), what does Webby and AJP agree on? That the first 4 posts, over an 7-month span, were not made in Florida!

   http://www (dot) 8thcivic (dot) com/forums/forced-induction-nitrous/52093-let-truth-told-2.html

   Update: 8th Civiic.com was so convinced of us creating fake accounts that they went on to accuse someone who bought our kit as an AJP employee due to his vocal support of us. We still don't even know what this person looks like, let alone employed him!

3. I read where you __________.

   We would be happy to respond to specific incidents. Please supply a link to the incident(s) in question so we can see it for ourselves. We want to make sure we respond to actual details and not hearsay and embellishments.

4. Why do I read that Florida customers get great service but out of state customers do not?

   Because the people who say that are only repeating what they've read but never bother to:

   1) get our side of the story
   2) investigate the details of the story

   Isn't it odd that they don't include details nor are they ever asked to supply details.

   What you have not heard about are the shops we have been supporting as they install our turbo kits. Over the past year, we gave ongoing support to shops in Portland, OR, Pelham, NH, Pittsburgh, PA, Philadelphia, PA, Sikeston, MO.

   Additionally, our kits have been installed by customers in Venezuela, Cayman Islands and Puerto Rico.